爱渭南的软绵绵 发表于 2023-7-13 17:25

合理吗?西安一物业要求业主按统一要求封闭阳台引不满,住建局回应

<div class="wx_rich_media_content" id="jsWxContainer"><p style='line-height: 1.75em;' data-mpa-powered-by="yiban.io"><span style='font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: 1px;'>近日,华商网《群众呼声》接到网友李先生反映,称西安航空城·蘭园小区物业要求业主按统一要求封闭阳台,部分业主质疑物业强制统一封窗方案的合理性。</span></p><p style='line-height: 1.75em;'><br></p><section style='font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.75em;'><section style='text-align: center;justify-content: center;margin: 10px 0%;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;border-width: 0px;min-width: 10%;flex: 0 0 auto;height: auto;align-self: flex-start;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='justify-content: center;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;vertical-align: top;border-width: 1px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(62, 62, 62);padding-right: 5px;padding-left: 5px;align-self: flex-start;flex: 0 0 auto;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;flex: 0 0 0%;align-self: center;height: auto;line-height: 0;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 100 100 0%;border-width: 0px;padding-right: 10px;padding-left: 10px;'><section style='text-align: right;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='line-height: 2;text-align: justify;'><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong><span style='text-align: justify;'>业主:质疑物业要求阳台封窗布局统一</span></strong></span></p><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong><span style='text-align: justify;'>是否合理</span></strong></span></p></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 0 0 0%;line-height: 0;height: auto;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>李先生介绍,小区总共有一千多户业主,今年七月前已经有六百多户交房,开发商规划为半封闭式阳台,许多业主在收房后想改为全封闭式,共有五百多户业主参与物业组织的封窗方案投票。物业公布的该次投票结果显示,封窗方案一得票数占总投票业主人数近40%,为得票最多的方案。随后,<span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong>物业要求所有封窗业主都按照方案一施工,其他阳台封窗方案的装修建材不允许进入小区。</strong></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong><br></strong></span></span></section><section style='text-align: center; line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong><span class="wxart_image" wx-style='display:inline-block;vertical-align: middle;letter-spacing: 0.578px;white-space: normal;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;width: 100%;height: auto;'></span></strong></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><br></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>“方案一封窗布局通风效果差,还有60%左右的人没有选择方案一。而且不管选择什么布局,大家都一定会保证安全性,那为什么物业非要大家按照方案一来装修呢?”对于物业要求统一布局的做法,李先生提出质疑,<span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong>他认为,房屋半封闭阳台区域是业主的专有部分,业主有权利选择自己喜欢的窗户布局,物业不应干涉阻拦。</strong></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>另一位业主张先生也提出问题,“物业是否可以用少数服从多数的原则定小区封窗方案?是否有权利阻止业主进入小区封窗?”</span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='text-align: center; line-height: 1.75em;'><span class="wxart_image" wx-style='display:inline-block;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;width: 100%;height: auto;'></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><br></section><section style='font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.75em;'><section style='text-align: center;justify-content: center;margin: 10px 0%;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;border-width: 0px;min-width: 10%;flex: 0 0 auto;height: auto;align-self: flex-start;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='justify-content: center;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;vertical-align: top;border-width: 1px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(62, 62, 62);padding-right: 5px;padding-left: 5px;align-self: flex-start;flex: 0 0 auto;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;flex: 0 0 0%;align-self: center;height: auto;line-height: 0;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 100 100 0%;border-width: 0px;padding-right: 10px;padding-left: 10px;'><section style='text-align: right;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='line-height: 2;text-align: justify;'><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong>家装行业人士:</strong></span></p><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong>各小区物业对封窗布局管理不一</strong></span></p></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 0 0 0%;line-height: 0;height: auto;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>李先生遇到的这一问题不是个例,由于不同业主对采光、通风、美观性的需求差异,封窗、改窗施工在装修中比较常见。</span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>一位从事多年家装行业的从业者告诉华商网记者,封窗、改窗的首要条件都是布局和材料符合安全要求,在这一基础前提下,<span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong>不同物业有不同管理方式,有的物业允许业主自行选择。</strong></span>但业主如果提前和物业签订了相关的管理协议,那一般来说会遵从小区统一的要求。“其实不光是物业管理,还有些业主他很在意居住小区整体的美观性,觉得乱七八糟影响自己的房价,就投诉,这种我们也遇到过。还有没有产权和规划报备的,查出是违建还得拆。”</span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='padding-right: 0.5em; padding-left: 0.5em; line-height: 1.75em;'><span class="wxart_image" wx-style='display:inline-block;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;width: 100%;height: auto;box-shadow: rgb(210, 210, 210) 0em 0em 0.5em 0px;font-size: 17px;'></span></section><section style='text-align: center; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-left: 0.5em; line-height: 1.75em;'><span class="wxart_image" wx-style='display:inline-block;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;vertical-align: middle;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;width: 100%;height: auto;box-shadow: rgb(210, 210, 210) 0em 0em 0.5em 0px;font-size: 17px;'></span></section><section style='padding-right: 0.5em; padding-left: 0.5em; line-height: 1.75em;'><br></section><section style='font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.75em;'><section style='text-align: center;justify-content: center;margin: 10px 0%;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;border-width: 0px;min-width: 10%;flex: 0 0 auto;height: auto;align-self: flex-start;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='justify-content: center;display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;vertical-align: top;border-width: 1px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(62, 62, 62);padding-right: 5px;padding-left: 5px;align-self: flex-start;flex: 0 0 auto;'><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;flex: 0 0 0%;align-self: center;height: auto;line-height: 0;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 100 100 0%;border-width: 0px;padding-right: 10px;padding-left: 10px;'><section style='text-align: right;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='line-height: 2;text-align: justify;'><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong>阎良区住建局:</strong></span></p><p style='text-align: center;'><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'><strong>小区物业要求符合相关规定</strong></span></p></section></section></section><section style='display: inline-block;vertical-align: middle;width: auto;align-self: center;flex: 0 0 0%;line-height: 0;height: auto;border-width: 0px;'><section style='margin-right: 0%;margin-bottom: 6px;margin-left: 0%;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section><section powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: 6px;height: 6px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;border-width: 1px;border-radius: 10px;border-style: solid;border-color: rgb(146, 146, 146);background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);'><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='display: flex;flex-flow: row nowrap;justify-content: center;' powered-by="xiumi.us"><section style='display: inline-block;width: auto;vertical-align: top;flex: 100 100 0%;align-self: flex-start;height: auto;line-height: 0;margin-right: 10px;margin-left: 10px;border-width: 0px;'><section style='display: inline-block;width: 100%;height: 5px;vertical-align: top;overflow: hidden;background-color: rgb(227, 239, 255);' powered-by="xiumi.us"><svg viewBox="0 0 1 1" style='float:left;line-height:0;width:0;vertical-align:top;'></svg></section></section></section></section></section></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>针对李先生反映的这一问题,华商网记者致电西安市住建局和阎良区住建局咨询相关规定。西安市住建局物业服务管理处工作人员表示,半封闭阳台封窗首先要符合安全规定和市容管理相关规定,建筑物外立面需要保持整洁美观。关于布局选择是采用<span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong>“少数服从多数”还是“人数过半”等其他投票选择办法,需要物业和业主共用协商,并没有明确规定。</strong></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>阎良区住建局工作人员表示:该小区业主在前期签署过装修协议,且根据中华人民共和国建设部令第110号《住宅室内装饰装修管理办法》第六条、第十六条、第二十条相关规定,<span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong>业主装修需要保持外立面统一。</strong></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><span style='color: rgb(0, 122, 170);'><strong><br></strong></span></span></section><section style='text-align: center; line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><span class="wxart_image" wx-style='display:inline-block;vertical-align: middle;letter-spacing: 0.578px;white-space: normal;border-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;width: 100%;height: auto;'></span></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>随后,记者致电该小区物业工作人员咨询相关情况,对方表示不便接受电话采访。</span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'><br></span></section><section style='line-height: 1.75em;'><span style='font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 1px;'>有业主表示,目前部分业主对物业投票方法有效性和不允许其他布局窗户进入小区的举措仍存质疑,将考虑通过法律途径解决此事。</span></section><section style='text-align: right; line-height: 1.75em;'><font face="微软雅黑" size="1" color="#696969"><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'>(来源:</span><span style='letter-spacing: 1px; text-align: right;'>华商网</span><span style='letter-spacing: 1px;'>)</span></font></section><section style='text-align: center; line-height: 1.75em;'><img src="https://www.yewn.cn/data/attachment/forum/202307/11/085008ta2jab0ydaq0nfkn.png"></section><p style='display: none;'><mp-style-type data-value="3"></mp-style-type></p></div>

华骅 发表于 2023-7-13 18:40

不知道物业为什么要统一

笑春风 发表于 2023-7-13 20:32

物业自己服务不咋样,还要求业主这样那样的

虎,虎,虎。 发表于 2023-7-13 21:07

物业自己服务不咋样,还要求业主这样那样的。

孙会玲 发表于 2023-7-13 21:25

不知道物业为什么要统一。

太阳雨r95 发表于 2023-7-13 21:56

物业自己服务不咋样,还要求业主这样那样的

Mor的王妃 发表于 2023-7-13 22:22

物业为什么要统一?

我的唯一 发表于 2023-7-13 23:53

不知道物业为什么要统一。

我的唯一 发表于 2023-7-13 23:53

物业自己服务不咋样,还要求业主这样那样的

爱上凉白开 发表于 2023-7-14 00:17

哎,都难做,物业就是为了小区整体的美观和安全
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